Monday, October 25, 2004

380 tons -- that's a lot right?

OK, so according to the IAEA, 380 tons of explosives are missing from an Iraqi military facility. I'm pretty sure that is a lot. Let's see -- 2000 pounds in one ton -- that's 760,000 pounds of explosives. This isn't the box of dynamite that goes missing when some guy wants to dig up his back yard. Moving 380 tons of explosives requires -- a coordinated effort. Removing it from a facility that the US has known about for many years and was one of the places that the weapons inspectors visited time and time again -- man it must have taken thousands of people to get through all of that security.

unless -- it was unguarded.

But that couldn't be the case right? I mean we went there to keep terrorists from getting the weapons of mass destruction. This is the exact kind of thing that we would keep a close eye on, right?

Oh... wait... There's a loophole here. Do you see it? See our goal was to keep them from getting weapons of mass destruction but we didn't say anything about massive weapons of destruction. Do you see the difference?



Rick said...

Don't get too excited, cowboy. NBC reported last night that they were there with the troops on the first few days of the war and the place was empty. So, those things could very well have been gone long before the war started.

I say "could very well" because nobody knows yet. Reports are conflicting. We know there used to be bombs there, they aren't there now, but when they disappeared is at question.

I do find it interesting, however, that this story came out this week. Expect the media to do even more this week. Reports are that 60 minutes was holding onto this story for Friday. Ah....politics.

Rick said...

And since CNN is a source you would trust more than, say, Fox:

Duffergeek said...

OK, first of all, Rick isn't very funny. Secondly, the logic that is being used is very similar to my original post.

1) It used to be there before the invasion
2) It isn't there now
3) It would take a huge effort to move it
4) Um... I didn't see them move it
5) Therefore it must have been moved before we got there

I just question step 4.

Rick said...

The truth is nobody knows anything about this yet, so Kerry attacking the President on it when in fact he could be 100% wrong is just silly. Wait for the facts to come in. There is so much weird about this story. Why didn't the IAEA destroy the ordinance like they were supposed to? Iraq wasn't supposed to have it. Why does one document show half of the explosives that this letter mentions? Why send this letter the week before an election (that one is easier to answer). And, as the article you quoted states:

"The claim couldn’t be independently verified."

Exactly: nobody knows anything, which is why reports like this in the waning days of an election are attempts to influence, not get to the bottom of anything. There will be a few more this week. Count on it.

Leslie Irish Evans said...


Rick said...

I raise your whoops -- Soldier on CNN right now talking about how he and his unit destroyed 200 tons of explosives at that very facility.

As I say: nobody knows anything. It's a dumb story to be going over in the last days of an election because it takes time to get the details. I'm sure this will ebb and flow now.

Interestingly, CBS is INDEED planning another "gotcha" story this Sunday. At least they don't fear it anymore, they are just going to go and keep pushing their agenda. Quite remarkable.

Leslie Irish Evans said...

So, what are you saying: "Don't report anything that might reflect negatively on the administration until after the election?" Methinks thou art way too interested in shooting the messenger. Me also knows you watch Fox News, listen to Rush Limbaugh, and think Bill O'Reilly is a fair journalist, and that when you're sitting on the far right EVERYTHING else looks left.

Anonymous said...

I couldn't find my password. Leslie, Leslie, Leslie...

1. I don't listen to Limbaugh. I hate him.
2. Bill O'Reilley is not a journalist. He's a commentator.

Of course they should keep reporting, but it's interesting they don't go all the way. I know that right now you are desperate to see Kerry win, thus all of this seems highly fair to you, but holding a story for maximum impact TWO DAYS before an election is what I am talking about. Especially when you're CBS, you don't have your facts straight, and you've already been caught once being hosed by a source. Yeah, I suspect CBS in this.

Leslie Irish Evans said...

Chris is right, you need to work on the funny.